Hope Mangiafico (00:00)
Hi, I'm Hope.
Nikki Humphrey (00:01)
Hi, I'm Nikki. Welcome to Equip Fellowship, where friends become family through Christ. We're two Jesus loving friends on a mission to share personal stories, resources, and real talks about our triumphs, breakthroughs, struggles, and setbacks. Why? Because we believe you are called to live victoriously, and we're here to equip you with Holy Spirit led tools and strategies to strengthen your faith, transform your mindset, and walk
Hope Mangiafico (00:19)
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Nikki Humphrey (00:30)
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Hope Mangiafico (00:48)
Yes, excited because we're talking about discipleship what that looks today is day and age and just.
get a better understanding of the concept that I feel has been talked about or preached about or the words been thrown around but it's like what do we do with that, right?
Nikki Humphrey (01:07)
Yes. And as I was journaling yesterday, Hope, was like, today we're talking about something that sounds big and spiritual and maybe even intimidating. Cause when you hear the word discipleship, you're like, ⁓ what's going to happen now? Cause you might picture when you hear that word, a Bible study with notebooks and highlighters, or you might a mentor meeting at a coffee shop or a structured program with weekly assignment.
Hope Mangiafico (01:16)
Yes.
Agreed.
Yes.
Yes.
Nikki Humphrey (01:38)
or
got to go on a mission overseas or meet with this person over here or, you know, be out on, you know, just on your grocery shopping trip, looking for the people to this sample. Right. It sounds very, very big and intimidating. While discipleship can include those things, what if it's much simpler than that? What if everyday discipleship looks a lot more ordinary?
and a lot more accessible because at its core, discipleship simply means following Jesus and helping others follow him too.
Hope Mangiafico (02:17)
Yes. And you know what I love about that, because to your point of saying it starts with following Jesus, that term we first hear about it really in the Bible with Jesus and his disciples, right? And I think we have this picture in our mind on top of kind of those examples you gave, but if we go to scripture, like that's what we think about. But at the end of the day, disciple is being a learner.
Nikki Humphrey (02:29)
Bye.
Hope Mangiafico (02:40)
So you follow Jesus because you're learning from Jesus and you're simply saying, that's how my savior is. I'm gonna mimic that and help other people along the way.
Nikki Humphrey (02:51)
thinking along the same lines because in John 15 Jesus says, abide in me and I in you. He doesn't say perform for me. He doesn't say impress me. He says abide. Every discipleship begins with staying connected to the Father.
Hope Mangiafico (02:59)
Mm.
Ugh.
Yes, it's so good. And when you're connected, you have that those teaching moments. He becomes your teacher in life. And I'm just again going back to Jesus and his disciples, the twelve. That's what we think about the twelve disciples. They were learners of Jesus. He was there in front of them, teaching them and culturally, that's what they would do. They would follow their teacher or as scripture says at that time, their rabbis. Like that's what they would do. Well, the most
exciting part to me about your point of how simple it is in day-to-day life is Jesus came. He had to teach people in person and like the disciples. Then he said, doop, gone, but I'm gonna leave the Holy Spirit with you. So now we have that abiding thanks to the Holy Spirit to constantly be learning from Jesus and looking more like him in every aspect of life.
the little details where we think it doesn't matter are the best opportunities for us to be looking more like him being discipled by our savior. Me too. That's why I had a little dance at the end.
Nikki Humphrey (04:14)
That's right. Ooh, I love that.
Because it really flips the script on the whole thing, right? Instead of us like, we got to go do this and that. Be discipled by Jesus first. Sit in your Jesus chair. What has he got to tell you? What doors is the opening? What doors is the closing? What does he want you to do? What does he want you to pull back from? What does he want you to learn from the Bible? All those things.
Hope Mangiafico (04:32)
Exactly.
Nikki Humphrey (04:47)
If we aren't first a disciple of Jesus, we can't disciple other people.
Hope Mangiafico (04:52)
And I think to your point, Nikki, we've almost had like a scholarly approach. And so you forget where it says this in Revelation, we forgotten our first love. You forget.
your first love, that first connection, because you get focused on the service, on the reaching out. And that is human nature to do that if we're not mindful. That's to me, that's part of that flesh body, almost that sin body, because as soon as you have that breakdown from your Father, Holy Spirit, and your Savior, Jesus Christ, like everything else is broken down. So that flesh nature is gonna wanna block you from having that continual communion.
Nikki Humphrey (05:34)
Yes.
Hope Mangiafico (05:35)
And let me just say, because this is feeding into a note that I wrote in my journaling, salvation absolutely matters. That moment you said yes to Jesus, that is so important. But remember, that's just the beginning. And it's actually everything after that matters with your relationship. Saying yes, wonderful. But it's all those details afterwards that makes up being a disciple of Jesus.
and having him your leader. So you're learning from him for the rest of your life. And that's why I guess we have this topic on our hearts is because discipleship goes from salvation until you leave this side of eternity.
Nikki Humphrey (06:08)
Mm-hmm.
Hope Mangiafico (06:24)
It's such a big picture, to Nikki's point, in the opening of how big of a topic it sounds, but we're gonna break it down further of how simple it is, but I can't emphasize that enough, ⁓ If you and other people you are around seem to preach the gospel, try to get it out to people, that's okay, but be sure also not to leave them hanging because this is the most important part.
of the journey back to what Nikki said, you got to be connected with Jesus before going out to others. This is the chunk that changes lives, including our own, right?
Nikki Humphrey (07:00)
love that so much. And as you're talking, when you think about being discipled by Jesus, and then we're like walking models of how Jesus discipled us.
when we receive from Jesus, when we allow him, disciple him, we are walking out our God given purpose that he's given us. Right. And so sometimes when we're out in the world or every time we're out in the world, it's how we communicate with others. It's how we treat our spouse. It's letting people see you repent. It's letting people know that you're apologizing.
Hope Mangiafico (07:18)
Okay.
Nikki Humphrey (07:37)
it's just like living out those things that you've learned from God on a daily basis without trying to make a show of it.
Hope Mangiafico (07:47)
I think the word that comes to mind that matches Jesus's character the most with what you're saying is meekness.
Nikki Humphrey (07:53)
Yes.
Hope Mangiafico (07:54)
That was his greatest attribute. And we, again, flesh nature, have pride behind what we do. So we become showy or whatever, and again, lose that connection with our first love. You reflect him, become that model, like you're saying, of meekness. And it becomes an overflow of your learning from him and his love.
out to others.
A couple years ago, I was really intrigued by that word meekness. it's like quiet strength.
Nikki Humphrey (08:29)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Hope Mangiafico (08:32)
And that was Jesus.
Nikki Humphrey (08:34)
Yeah.
Hope Mangiafico (08:35)
And
again, he had that direct connection to the Father, so all of that was overflow. And you think about it, just like Jesus's connection with the Father when he was fully human here on Earth, there was no formality to the way he talked to his Father, other than going to Father and calling him Father. There was no formality, no structures, just like you said, Nikki.
And as we move forward, with the help of the Holy Spirit, how we can demonstrate exactly the examples Nikki gave and how we can continue growing and being discipled. Because it's like, cool Nikki, heard everything you said, but what does it look like to connect to Jesus, to be discipled by him first? What are the tools? How do I do it?
without getting a laundry list, a task to do it, without making it overwhelming.
I actually had four things that kind of like popped in as ways that we can be taught by him. And the first one is bluntly obvious. It's reading scripture. And a couple episodes ago, know, Nikki, it might've even been the last one, I can't remember. I think it was an overflow. You were talking about getting the foundation right. And that's like, the Lord was up to something last year when we were reading.
the Bible in a year. That was us being taught by Jesus. He is the Word. That is scripture. You absolutely have to prioritize that not as a checklist but as a heart desire.
It's so filling, it's so good. And a second one that you kind of hit on when you were talking about like displaying grace to people and just different people out in the community serving others is gathering with other people.
And I was thinking about this podcast for you and I with our friendship, right? And the power of that because you do have access to your savior all the time, but he's gonna use Nikki in my life. He's gonna use the people in your life to teach you.
And I know I can say that a lot with our friendship.
powerful stuff.
Nikki Humphrey (11:00)
Yes, and that's why it's important who you choose to surround yourself with.
Hope Mangiafico (11:06)
Yes, I was that was immediately what I was saying. I was like here are the some of the five people here around
Nikki Humphrey (11:11)
And I was just thinking like, if you're around a bunch of people who do superficial discipleship, then you're going to become a superficial disciple. And I probably was a superficial disciple for a while because I wanted to go out in church and serve and do all this stuff. And was I actually hearing from God to do that? Or just did I put my own spin on what discipleship should be because it was
it came with like, ⁓ yeah, you know, Nikki, she's doing that at church. Isn't that cool? Like, yeah. Like, and so I had to check myself and make sure that I'm surrounding with people who serve from a spirit led discipleship perspective, not just let's get kudos for discipling people.
Hope Mangiafico (11:42)
Okay.
Yeah, let's not just get kudos as well as let's not just say we go through these five weeks or five steps. You know, that's what you and I, we've talked about it a million times, what we were drawn to. And that's how my walk really started. It was very similar. Like let me get plugged in because it gives me this very structured study. There will be a grace from the Father for that for a short season and he will use it for good, but you cannot.
build your life on those things. It's not sustainable because it, I feel like I don't want to jump ahead to something I wrote down beforehand. ⁓ But I might jump a little bit. Because most of those types of things like Nikki was talking about in a group or me doing some external study too, those are often resources that the Lord may lead you to.
But I have found, and Nikki, let me know if you can attest to this, that resources the Father bring you are usually for a season or a reason, but never for a lifetime. Because if you hold onto it for a lifetime, your learning directly from Him completely dissipates.
Nikki Humphrey (13:17)
Right. Because that book is not the Bible.
Hope Mangiafico (13:21)
Which is why the Bible reading scripture was number one. And actually what I just shared about resources, I had as the last item on the list, number four. So you just validated that of like, that actually is really helpful, but that bottom one's only helpful if Holy Spirit leads you there. And you don't have a tight grip on it because you like how it feels to have the kudos like Nikki said.
Nikki Humphrey (13:40)
That's right.
Hope Mangiafico (13:46)
like I would do, I love being able to just answer questions, like, yeah, on paper, I've made progress. That means nothing about my.
Nikki Humphrey (13:52)
Yeah, or being at the
person at church. if you need prayer, to to Nikki. Go to Nikki if you need this like no.
Hope Mangiafico (14:00)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nikki Humphrey (14:01)
I mean, I like to be a person where people can come to, but I don't want it to be superficial.
Hope Mangiafico (14:07)
Yeah, yeah.
The Lord is convicting the crap out of me talking about list doing. I had never seen it this way and maybe this will speak to someone else too. I used to like list and I know you have too, Nikki, because you see the progress on your paper but the Father is telling me right now the progress you see on paper never actually reflects the progress made in the heart. It doesn't touch the heart.
Nikki Humphrey (14:11)
You
Hope Mangiafico (14:30)
Me. Heard that. But you know, I also like Nikki talking about gathering with others. You talked about your friend group and it's definitely like a core friend group. It's absolutely okay to have other friends that you may actually be shining a light on. Not actively. You're not trying to go, you know, disciple them necessarily. You're just being present in their life reflecting love.
But your core is that it's okay if everyone in your life is not on the same page or level or however you wanna call it as you, but that core is absolutely the most significant part of that gathering. Of course, as well as the church that you choose. It is important to have that kind of community too.
So, so far for though it does not require formality and does not require a teacher-student format because Jesus came tall and now we study him through the scriptures by gathering other people. And the third one, I this was so interesting, the Lord highlighted to me is in your home.
And this is the note that I wrote. If you're an adult, even without young children or children, like you have a child, I do not, you are a leader because you're an adult. And leaders need to be the best students of Holy Spirit. And it kind of made me think about being an entrepreneur. You are not running a business without learning every day something new. You're student every day that you run a business. I was like, dang, that's good.
So as an adult in your home, even if you're solo, single, anything, you're still leading your home. How are you caring for it, right? Are you stewarding it well? You have to be the best student of the Holy Spirit. And if you're like, well, that's strange. Why would I be a student of the Holy Spirit? John 14, 26 says that the comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name. This is Jesus talking.
He shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever I have said to you.
stamped by Jesus.
Nikki Humphrey (17:00)
That's good.
Hope Mangiafico (17:00)
You're not
helpless. Whether you're by yourself, married, six kids, one kid, you have the greatest teacher.
Nikki Humphrey (17:11)
That's right. I love this discipling the home because I've been doing it. I've been telling Hope, like, I keep clearing things out and clearing things out and going through and do I need this or how can I make this just a little bit more, not adding money to it, but just like, how can I pizzazz it? Just my space up.
Hope Mangiafico (17:19)
Yeah.
Amen, yeah.
Nikki Humphrey (17:33)
And it does, it changes the atmosphere in your home and it teaches other people to steward things well in your home also.
Hope Mangiafico (17:40)
Exactly, because you're leading.
Nikki Humphrey (17:43)
Right. And because I cleaned up a little space in my room, like she went into her bedroom yesterday and like organized her drawers. Like it's just that. But I was trying to. Yeah, that's what was trying to communicate from the beginning, like just like those little things that you do. People are watching. People are listening. You know, not just people in your home, but people you come in contact with on a daily basis or semi-regular basis. Like they're looking to you for.
Hope Mangiafico (17:52)
It's modeling, like you said earlier.
Nikki Humphrey (18:11)
how you're acting and how you're behaving. It has an effect on them.
Hope Mangiafico (18:17)
Well, you know what's so funny
compliment what you're saying, I love your example because you're talking about what you are doing and how it actually trickled down to your daughter. And then if you flip it and you're allowing yourself to be discipled by Holy Spirit daily in your home and your family, it's actually gonna challenge you the most and be your greatest opportunity ever for growth, for being a follower of Christ. Because God knew who your daughter would be. God knew if you were gonna be single.
for however long God knew who your spouse was gonna be. He knew the family he put together for you and what it could form us into as well as your children or your spouse as his disciples. So we can be the vessels to teach people about him through our very own lives. And so it's this beauty of showing your family and then letting God work on you through that challenge because it ain't easy.
being a learner within your home. Right? You hear that all the time. mean, Nikki, let's remind people that we met through network marketing. And in network marketing, what do they say? Your family's the last to ever believe you or follow you? God knew that ground was gonna be tough.
Nikki Humphrey (19:30)
Yes, to join on your bandwagon. Yeah.
Hope Mangiafico (19:36)
and it forms incredible characteristics in you.
Nikki Humphrey (19:41)
I wrote down discipleship is slow and relational.
Hope Mangiafico (19:46)
And it's very relational, On multiple levels, right? Both from horizontally and vertically.
Nikki Humphrey (19:53)
Because you say, Jesus spent three years with 12 men, right? Three years walking, teaching. Jesus had to keep repeating himself sometimes because they weren't getting it. Okay, I'm going to say it a different way. Correcting, encouraging, letting them fail, restoring them. And everyday discipleship, you got to be patient. And like you said, that meekness coming through.
Hope Mangiafico (20:19)
Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, it's so good. I love that so much.
Nikki Humphrey (20:20)
It's not forcing change. It's not controlling somebody. It's not measuring success by visible fruit. It's just planting seeds, watering them and trusting God to grow them in the people.
Hope Mangiafico (20:42)
So we got reading scripture, gathering with others, in your own home, and the fourth one I mentioned already where the resources that the Holy Spirit may lead you to to deepen your understanding. And I put it in all caps that he leads you to, not your own. Which goes back to what I I shared earlier about like, if you continue holding onto it, it then becomes hope-led instead of spirit-led, for example. And yeah, I've done that a lot in my life.
It's tough being a disciple. ⁓
Nikki Humphrey (21:14)
Even last week, I think I told Hope that I cleared out six more books out of my collection. And when I looked at some of those things, I was just like, I thought I was so good at the time, but now I'm just like, what was I? So I was like, what was I thinking or what was I believing or what was I doing at this time that caused me to be so attracted to a book like this or resource like this?
Hope Mangiafico (21:20)
Go.
Yeah, right. And I mean, the answer is different for everyone. again, it's so cool to even attempt to teach messages like this because he works all things for good. And so even if they were completely out of left field, he somehow weaved it into Nicky's story, for example. And I can say the same about
about my life. But it goes back to no matter what the reason is, all resources are for a reason, a season, and very rarely a lifetime. And it made me think about this podcast, right? We hope we have people that will listen as long as we have it. But if the Lord leads you down a different path for some reason, we trust that. We trust that if the podcast stops for us as much as it's life-giving to us, we trust that it was for a season.
It's really important for...
matter which side you're on, whether you're the mentee or the mentor, right? You're the podcast host or the podcast listener. You have to hold it loosely.
Nikki Humphrey (22:47)
And it's interesting too, and I'm sure you have us hope like you bought in resources and you never opened them up, but then you pick it up a year or two later and you're like, wow, this is a really great resource. So you have to trust Holy Spirit's timing. Like just because you buy it doesn't mean you have to dig into it right away.
Hope Mangiafico (23:08)
You know that is so funny you're mentioning that because I'm going through a devotion right now. That was the first one I had when I said yes to Jesus. And I thought it was fire back then. Granted, it was way too deep for this new follower of Christ. And I read today's, and I wish I could just grab it, but it's okay. I read today's and I highlighted the last line. And on that last line from back in 2017, I wrote, wow, I'm guilty of this.
I highlighted it again today and I said, wow, still guilty of this 2025. And I couldn't believe though reading it now in my, excuse me, 2026, with my new eyes. This was richer now than it was then because he gave it to me then and hope being hope dove right in. But it was something for this season and I read it with new eyes and I had to put the date beside it again just because it kind of reminded me of exactly what you're saying.
eight years later. It's, breach in on a deep level.
Nikki Humphrey (24:15)
I have a devotional like that. Like I get it out every couple of years. I'd like to go through it again because from the jump, I've written stuff in there and now going back, it's like it was fire then, but it's fire now, but it hits different. It's so cool.
Hope Mangiafico (24:24)
Yes!
Yes.
Which honestly highlights how that spirit led because just like scripture is living, it is spirit breathed, God breathed, the same as a resource that was directed to you by the Lord and it keeps showing back up every couple years. He's saying, hey, keep going back to it. So he breathes on it. It hits a new level of your spirit and your soul and your whole being.
because he led you there. I love it. I know that that was a devotion. Mine is the same way from the Father. I just know it's just, inner weavings of how it crossed my path was amazing. ⁓ And he uses it all for good. you're a new Christian, you sure as heck can't comprehend some of the stuff that I was reading.
So that's so great, I love that. And you're actually covering so many good stuff, examples, whether you're talking about the books as resources. I mentioned very briefly being a mentee or a mentor. So having a mentor in your life that can look like a lot of different things, but God will bring people in your life for a season. A mentee or even, excuse me, mentor or a coach, right? Like a life coach or anything like that for season.
they'll enter in to help strengthen you, to help you gain more understanding. Nikki also, we talked about the podcast. And I was thinking about even like, you've talked about as well, social media. Like God will even use random videos on social media that then lead you to follow someone for a season that will help.
you gain a better understanding. But it's first season and Nikki can preach on that because she has shared multiple times how she has felt led to clean house virtually as well as in her actual house.
Nikki Humphrey (26:33)
That's truth. And yeah, I did. It doesn't mean like what people are doing is bad or wrong or like, love my coaching clients who like, I'll see them for period of time and they're good to go. And then they're like off and running, but sometimes they just need to check in like a refresh. And like, we have a couple more sessions and then they're off. Like, I don't take offense that because I'm like, they're applying what they're knowing and they're learning the tools for themselves and how to implement them in their lives. And that's so exciting.
Hope Mangiafico (26:33)
But how you... Yeah.
Yeah.
Nikki Humphrey (27:02)
And that's the same way I use social media. Somebody could be feeding in to me for a season and then I'm like, well, not so much anymore, but you go do you girl. I'll still be cheering you from back here. And then I might circle back a year or two later and be like, ⁓ okay, look at that.
Hope Mangiafico (27:20)
That's the truth. I mean, honestly, this is, is...
This is not from Jesus content necessarily, but it's me listening and trying to follow through with something I believe God's called me to do. A couple weeks ago, I shared on the podcast that my husband shared someone on Instagram that was helping me. Boy, it was like video after video. I was like, these have been my questions. They're getting answered. And then I had a hard like stop. I was like.
Nikki Humphrey (27:49)
Yes.
Hope Mangiafico (27:52)
but it was so good, but also like I could tell, like I almost could tell that tension was building and it was like, your door's about to close. Girl, we're talking just a couple weeks, right? I'm watching these videos. And then as soon as I had that conviction, I'm not even kidding, a new resource, I don't know how, crossed my path on YouTube, and the man's name, I don't even think he's a Christian, but his name is Emmanuel. And I instantly was like, God, I really believe this is the next person I'm supposed to learn from.
Nikki Humphrey (27:57)
Yes.
Hope Mangiafico (28:21)
And man is the content so good. I had to obey to stop the first one.
Nikki Humphrey (28:28)
That's right.
Hope Mangiafico (28:28)
I don't even know why I just opened that door, but you have to obey and quit that resource so the next one that will take you further into your purpose, into your...
your full childhood, your inheritance, the precious gifts of God.
You have to obey to then open up your hands and allow for what's next for you to be that child of God.
Nikki Humphrey (28:51)
That's right. And if we don't allow Jesus to disciple us, we don't have that discernment.
Hope Mangiafico (28:57)
Yeah. Boy, and I think discernment often is like the first thing to go when we lose that connection because you're literally missing the spirit that leads you. The all-knowing spirit.
Nikki Humphrey (29:10)
Yeah, just like that situation I was telling you about today, I was like, did you check with God on that?
Hope Mangiafico (29:18)
Nikki, I know this is gonna be really simple. Yeah. I felt like that conversation was very podcast-like. I know this is really simple, but did you ask the Lord yes or no?
Nikki Humphrey (29:20)
What?
⁓
And I was like, yeah, but then the world comes in and makes you question And that's when you got to go back to the father and back again if you need to and back again Because the world would try to trip you up every which way and I'm like this doesn't feel right in my spirit But the world says you have to do this
Hope Mangiafico (29:41)
If you want.
Yeah. And we've been trained by the world for so long that even as we've gotten stronger in him, it's crazy that when we get the slightest bit vulnerable, how quickly that world comes in and we will take the bait unless we have a gathering with others that can help make sure we stay on path.
That is why gathering with others is part of discipleship. You're never meant to be alone.
For Nikki, the example she's talking about, she's not technically alone, she's got family in her home. But when it comes to the torment of trying to make a decision, you feel so isolated until you open your mouth to someone that is in that core group and they can ground you again.
such a lie that we're in isolation making these big decisions or we're by ourselves having to make these decisions on our own. And I'm so grateful that before we hit record, Nikki presented this to me and I told her could see myself in her conversation, right? And what, as I'm speaking now, what was highlighting me so much is how often I get on that confusion, that pendulum, because in my mind I'm trying to make the decision all by myself.
I might ask the father, but I'm not really listening because I'm still swinging. It makes me think of a pendulum with like the little ball going back and forth and I'm the one. It's like a wrecking ball.
Nikki Humphrey (31:18)
Yes, but at same time you have a computer because you're researching everything. What does this say? What does this say? What does this say? What would a god say?
Hope Mangiafico (31:30)
So you know, you mentioned research before as well. That's become my big red flag now, is when I notice I start going to chat GPT or Google and I'm just starting like typing. I get the result and immediately typing again. I am faster, more quick to stop than I used to be, but that may be Hope's current biggest red flag when I'm overwhelmed and overstimulated and stuck.
in thinking that the answer lies in a Google search.
⁓ That's the tree of knowledge folks, the tree of good and evil. You don't want that, you want the tree of life.
Nikki Humphrey (32:09)
Yes.
Hope Mangiafico (32:17)
And the beauty of all of this, all of that said.
is we now have 24-7 access to the teacher.
getting on your phone and researching, that is mockery. It's literally you talking about researching just convicted me of this. We have 24 access now to the teacher thanks to Holy Spirit because Jesus died and resurrected and left the Holy Spirit for us. And the enemy comes with 24 seven access on a device.
to try and teach us.
No. And for me, the question, and I just feel very led to end my little segment here with, is now that we know we have the truth of 24-7 access from Holy Spirit, and we have false access to information through phone, computer, internet, the question is how will you let him teach you today? How will you let him and
Will you let him teach you?
Nikki Humphrey (33:30)
Good.
Hope Mangiafico (33:31)
It was good.
Nikki Humphrey (33:32)
It was good. I got quiet because I was like, listen up, Nikki.
Hope Mangiafico (33:37)
Well, me too. I mean, it's amazing. And I know that sometimes we're so repetitive on this of like how mind blowing it is when you feel the spirit moving. But Nikki giving that research example just connected my own dots with this whole phone being mockery and a copy of Holy Spirit.
Nikki Humphrey (33:58)
It's a distraction to connection. Yeah.
Hope Mangiafico (34:00)
It is.
But what's crazy is I can't quite find the words for it. It is the closest mockery to Holy Spirit we have. Imitation, I guess it's imitation. I had never seen it that way. I've seen it as distraction. I've seen it as information, but no one has presented it to me as false Holy Spirit.
That hit different for me today.
Nikki Humphrey (34:27)
Yeah, it does
because you rely on that more than you checking in with the spirit.
That spirit should be our first course of action, not like our third or fourth.
Hope Mangiafico (34:40)
Right.
So will you let him? Ask yes or no and hear that. And then how will you let him? You have four key areas of reading scripture, gathering with people, how will you steward your home, and external resources outside of the Bible. Today, how will you let him teach you? will you be a learner of Jesus?
Nikki Humphrey (35:09)
I that. I think that'll do it. I have a closing encouragement, but I'm only gonna end with the little last part because I think you wrapped it up so well, Hope. Everyday discipleship is not flashy, it's faithful. And faithful over time changes generations. Let's be women who follow closely and invite others to walk with us.
Hope Mangiafico (35:10)
Yeah.
be a generation changer. Until next time, we'll see you in the overflow.
