Nikki Humphrey (00:00)
Won't he do it? I mean, this is what I had.
Hope Mangiafico (00:00)
I won't he do it. really thought today
Nikki Humphrey (00:06)
The thing was the Bible passage that I wrote now.
Hope Mangiafico (00:12)
And I only had the word from him, which was long, but I knew it wasn't like what I was gonna read at the beginning and call it a day.
And I authentically, when I got that title, I thought we were gonna define like almost like a identity thing about how he cares about us individually and why self matters. And then highlighting how the world does the self care and the self help and the self love all backwards. But we didn't hit on that at all.
other than God's word of just helping clarify things that you and I talked about too, about just like how the enemy gets in or tricks us or utilizes trauma. And I think I personally really appreciated that part of the word of like hate and rejection in the very essence of darkness. Because at the end of the day, everything you and I shared that were the bad and the ugly, they had those two roots.
Nikki Humphrey (01:05)
Hmm.
Yeah, the bad and the ugly was definitely a manipulation of mindset that we bought into. And then we chose that to be our identity.
Hope Mangiafico (01:31)
Right.
Interesting you just use the word, the phrase manipulation of mindset because in his word he said, you know, it's been through manipulation and I heard that and I was like, I was tempted to dig into it more but I didn't because I was like that word doesn't resonate with me. But then you just used it and I think now as you're speaking that like manipulation is more than like me trying to get $20 from you, for example, and trying to convince you to give me something that I don't deserve like.
There's a lot of depth to that word.
Nikki Humphrey (02:11)
Right. I mean, isn't that what people are trained in though, is to manipulate mindset. I forget what it's called. There's a, it will pop in maybe, but it's just like people are trained to use certain words to change your mindset about it. Like neuro-linguistic, something like that.
Hope Mangiafico (02:20)
I don't know the term.
That makes sense.
Nikki Humphrey (02:39)
But it is, it's using these correct words at a certain point to help change somebody's mind about something.
Hope Mangiafico (02:48)
That makes sense.
as you're saying that, what's coming to mind is the word safety. They do that to then make you believe what is gonna bring you comfort, make you feel safe, be that answer, that key for you.
Because I don't know why that word is just so heavy on me. Like this most of this year about safety and I think it's because if you don't have a life filled with safety, you are so there goes that susceptible word again. That's such a hard word. You are so susceptible to all of those things and we're in the world. So wouldn't it be like the world to develop these strategies to take advantage of your susceptibility?
Nikki Humphrey (03:38)
Yes. And we talked a little bit about the episode of like what blocks God's love. And we talked about like when you're loved well and you allow God to love you well, it just makes things easier because you're not carrying the whole load yourself. You're not being independent. You are dependent on God's love that's steady and
Hope Mangiafico (03:44)
me.
Yeah.
Nikki Humphrey (04:04)
always there and it's not manipulated. It's not all these worldly things and his love creates that safety net that bonds us together with him and allows us to confront things in the world that are not from him.
Hope Mangiafico (04:22)
Yeah.
Nikki Humphrey (04:25)
and allows my heart more these days to be convicted.
Hope Mangiafico (04:29)
Yeah. Yeah, you see conviction as not a what's wrong with me anymore. ⁓ Or again, it doesn't have its connection to self hate, self rejection. Because we've had more encounters with his love.
Nikki Humphrey (04:45)
And even we talked about this a little bit on the episode, but I want to make it clear. Like even if I'm looking at something and it makes me feel a certain way, I'm not judging that person because I've been there too. There's no judgment on the person. It's just that content isn't for me anymore. Maybe it's for other people and not to say that it's bad because it could be that person's particular, it could be a springboard for somebody to jumpstart their relationship or reconnect their relationship to God. So there's no judgment. It's just,
I've outgrown it, or that's not for me right now.
Hope Mangiafico (05:18)
So it's funny you're saying like that con like I'm not judging them because I find that as humans we often like have to explain ourselves or we feel like we have to explain ourselves
And I'm feeling led to share a truth that has finally settled in me. Going back to the greatness of God and understanding how great he is. We authentically cannot know what God will do with that content. And when you finally realize the greatness and just the presence of God and that he knows beginning to end and he understands way more than we do, you see something like that content. You're like, that's not for me.
God use it, bless them, whatever, it's a bless and release concept. And then you move on because you're only responsible for you. And that's the root of it. I have found that even myself, I feel like if I say something like, I'm not judging, and it's like, well, then that makes it sound like I'm having to defend myself, which then actually sounds like I'm contradicting myself. And it really is, we get to the point where we realize we can, here comes the big thing of self.
Nikki Humphrey (06:13)
Yes.
Hope Mangiafico (06:31)
We can only take care of ourselves. We're only responsible for ourselves until God tells us, hey, you're gonna be a vessel to all those girls at the job you said yes to for six weeks, Nikki Then you move. You still don't judge, but you move because it's your calling that you are supposed to fulfill. We have to keep our eyes on ourselves.
Nikki Humphrey (06:56)
Yes, and let's let the Bible explain it here, Romans 5, 8. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this. While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Hope Mangiafico (06:59)
Thank
Exactly.
Nikki Humphrey (07:11)
So he's gonna use it just like you said.
Hope Mangiafico (07:14)
Exactly. I don't see a ton of things on social media that is a lot of like someone sharing their conversion story or whatever it may be. But I see enough to know that someone that was posting once really, I don't want to use the word horrific, but things that go against the kingdom of God, they're now on the other side.
Nikki Humphrey (07:42)
It's so exciting. It's like...
Hope Mangiafico (07:43)
It's so exciting.
Nikki Humphrey (07:46)
It's like better than any movie I've ever seen. You know, like, just.
Hope Mangiafico (07:51)
Yeah, it really is. That's the true.
Nikki Humphrey (07:52)
It really is. Because we've seen some
people have these radical conversions and it's amazing.
Hope Mangiafico (08:01)
It really is. It really is. And so that's.
Nikki Humphrey (08:05)
I mean, people
will look at my life and think that too, probably. That ain't Nikki. That ain't the 1990s, early 2000s version.
Hope Mangiafico (08:09)
Right.
And it's great news. And that's like, you know, we always talk about Jesus being the good news and he is. And he's the good news because like, like God said at the end of our main episode that we recorded today, this is the good, the great news that eternity is saturated in love and his law, which people, know, poopoo on the wall sometimes were in the New Testament.
but his law was also rooted in love because Jesus is woven through all of it.
Nikki Humphrey (08:53)
Yes.
Hope Mangiafico (08:55)
That's the great news.
He's everywhere in everything. That's scripture too. All things are through him and for him. I always add an extra one and buy him. I don't know. I never get it right. But basically, if you look at Psalm, he's woven in it. And that's great news. With love attached to it.
boy I just want to be his daughter saturated in that love. Like you said, Nikki, in a couple episodes ago how like back in the beginning with the 60 day challenge we would just sit.
Hmm.
Nikki Humphrey (09:33)
It feels
so good. It feels so, good.
Hope Mangiafico (09:36)
You can't explain it because nothing
around you has changed other than you've settled for a moment in his love.
Nikki Humphrey (09:41)
And I'm laying on
a hardwood floor. Like there's no comfort. Like there was no pillow. There was no carpet. There is no nothing.
In that moment, all my needs were taken care of and I felt truly comforted and loved and cherished and all the things.
Hope Mangiafico (09:59)
All your needs. That makes me think that we often don't understand what a need is. You're probably actually going to be on that venture of understanding that more and more based off what God showed you as your bad, is you're going to start understanding needs differently. Because that's been a journey I've been on too.
I thought, I mean I'll just share this because it's kind of part of this whole year, I thought me learning day trading was going to help me a financial need. God's like, hope. You don't have money needs. That's not your problem. Your needs is you need to get fully delivered from this anxiety of fear of not being enough. So just digging, digging, digging, overworking, that's the need.
And you're not asking for that, you're asking for strategies on how to day trade so that you can bring in income.
And he helped, but it only went so far because he's like, that ain't the need. So I'm gonna help a sister out, but you're still gonna have this wilderness moment where it's gonna come out inside of you of what your real need is. So you come back home.
So I just pray that we all understand and gain a better understanding what our real needs are.
so we can become all that he planned for us and designed us for.
Amen.
Nikki Humphrey (11:42)
amen
