Britt Mognoni (00:00)
I'm glad you didn't give a time frame because when people like, well, I like to keep it on 20 minutes. I'm always like, ⁓ where are we going? What if we got.
Hope Mangiafico (00:05)
We just let
the, we let the spirit move. We do, we do. And it's just like, we can feel when, when the Lord's like, okay, it's good. And it's kind of felt that way, you know, and that happens almost every time. And they usually do end up being about 45 minutes to an hour though. But yeah, it just kept rolling and building and it was so rich.
Britt Mognoni (00:17)
Yeah, I was like, hmm.
I was so good. like got my own. I'm like, sometimes it was so crazy even just you talking about the testimony at the mall. I'm like, I literally was thinking about that within the last week, like less than week. It was crazy. So I'm so glad that you said that. ⁓
Hope Mangiafico (00:37)
I love that!
I
am too and it just popped in my head because really when Nikki and I first started talking about having these like couple of series about community, I was just thinking really like church community, people that are whatever, friends, whatever. She was like, well, hope, what about that coffee shop? Like they're going out in the community to like, you know, reach fable for Jesus. And I was like, I didn't even think about like going out to the community. And so it helped open my eyes to like how deep.
community can run. It's not just those like, hey, you're my friend. It's like, it's every person because we're all children of God and we all need those encounters with our father.
Britt Mognoni (01:15)
Right.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Hope Mangiafico (01:24)
And
you got to be that for that man. And man, yeah, I wish I was a fly on the wall for that too. And I know you wish it was recorded like you said, you wish that it
Britt Mognoni (01:34)
Yes, and there's so many things too. We just like replay in my head. like, I should have asked him about the, I like, I truly was stunned. Like I remember just being like so stunned after I'm like, I wasn't like, okay, are you ready to like give your life to like, it didn't even have like, didn't even go there. I was just like, and have a good day.
Hope Mangiafico (01:51)
Like
you said, like it was such a divine encounter. Like who just gets a seed planted and you're running towards this guy and you're just like, it's like the overflow is coming out of you. You just don't even know really what's going on in that moment. Cause like Holy Spirit has taken over, right? And so it's just like, it's all wind up how God wanted it to play out, right? So like you can overthink it and be like, I need to do this.
Britt Mognoni (02:09)
I did.
Hope Mangiafico (02:21)
God just showed up, you did it and boom, that's all needed to be done. And you're not the first person to say that. You're not the first person to be like, I didn't follow. Yeah, I do that a lot. I'll pray over somebody at church and be like, ⁓ man, I should have said this. But I'm like, well, the Holy Spirit would have brought it up in that moment if I was supposed to say something about that.
Britt Mognoni (02:24)
Yes. And I...
It's so.
Yes
Yes,
yes, yeah, I just have to trust. like, Lord, you know, you go before and you go behind. So just clean up any messes that I've unfinished business. Like let him do it.
Hope Mangiafico (02:48)
You
That reminds
me, I don't know why, that's just reminding me of this. And I don't know why I'm sharing this story, but I'm going to. Because it just shows like truly, that's like, you have history with him, but you're still kind of like, well, this is blind faith because I have, yeah, it was messy. I'm just trusting you. You can rewire, bend time, do all the things. One time, many years ago, we started going to a new church and I felt like I was supposed to make, this is so silly. I felt like I was supposed to make something for the faster. And I wrote like,
Britt Mognoni (03:11)
Yes.
Hope Mangiafico (03:24)
And I was like, hope it'd be really cool if you could ever talk to him. No, don't do it. Don't put your email. Don't put your phone number. I put it down. As soon as I sent that thing off, said, Lauren, please erase that! That was not you! I don't need to...
was not you. Please, you can do it. You can just erase things. You are the Korean creator. Use that heavenly eraser. Get it away. Because that was slimy.
Britt Mognoni (03:45)
It could be gone. Yes. Yep. ⁓ okay.
my gosh. Yeah, there's those moments you're like, Lord, what was I doing? Those are moments of humility where you're like, okay, God.
Hope Mangiafico (04:00)
No!
Yeah, it was like up until that point I felt very aligned the gift was great I mean I was like dang lord you're really showing up and then I just right at the end
Britt Mognoni (04:15)
The little cherry on, unneeded cherry on top that you're like, you're here. gosh. God.
Hope Mangiafico (04:18)
Huh?
on Yeah.
Britt Mognoni (04:23)
I I was
thinking of the mall situation because I did not stop and pray for someone who I felt like I was supposed to pray for on Saturday. Where I was like, there was a women's event around here and like a woman was in front of me going on the stairs and she was like limping. And I remember being like, just pray for her, just stop and pray. I'm like, and I just kept on walking. I just kept on walking. like, why? Like I get it, I'm like, why did I do that? Like I'm not in a rush.
Hope Mangiafico (04:47)
Yeah.
Britt Mognoni (04:51)
It literally, was so like you're, I don't know, dissociated, whatever. I literally was thinking, I should pray for this woman. I just walked to my car. I didn't. And I'm like, how many times, like that happens a lot. I mean, I feel like that happens
Hope Mangiafico (05:00)
Yeah.
Britt Mognoni (05:05)
like in the Christian, whatever, wow. People are like, it's this weird thing in our head. And like, I don't want to give the enemy credit, but I'm also aware of the enemy wanting to like distract or be like, it's just, just go home. Like you're tired, it's late.
Hope Mangiafico (05:07)
Yeah. Yeah.
Britt Mognoni (05:21)
Go home. So like, I don't know. just, think that was when it made me think of like, I didn't, there was no one even around. And if anybody was around, it was like the Christian women who were just at the event. like, it's not like I was worried about like looking foolish. Like I truly
Hope Mangiafico (05:32)
Yeah.
Britt Mognoni (05:36)
just chose that too in the moment. I'm like, oh, that's gross. Like.
Hope Mangiafico (05:37)
We talk
about that all the time. There's so many split second decisions that are put in front of us every single day. Yeah. That we miss like probably 90%, maybe more 98 % of them. We're just like not even either acknowledging them or saying yes or whatever. And it's like that 2 % a day maybe that we're just like, okay, like we're at.
Britt Mognoni (05:48)
Mm-hmm.
How great is the Lord to also not overwhelm us? I feel like people will let that be like, well, I would be praying for everybody. And I would just be like, I wouldn't have time to do this. like, well, what is the Lord's, what if it's the one? He left the 99 for the one. So it's not, he would not overwhelm, he wouldn't overwhelm you. And so I think there's just those beautiful moments where I, after I went in my car and I was like, Lord.
Hope Mangiafico (06:07)
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah. Yeah.
Britt Mognoni (06:29)
I'm so sorry. And I was like, if I see her again, you know, the whole thing,
Hope Mangiafico (06:33)
Yeah.
Britt Mognoni (06:33)
I see her again, literally, she like driving in the car and I was just like, bless her Lord. I feel her, I'm so sorry. It just, really, there's, his grace is so good. Like there's grace for that. And there's also like maturity, you know, like we can't hyper and just use and like take advantage of grace in that way where you're like,
You know, I could just pray for her from here, but it's like, is that what the Lord was saying? Like, disobedient, like I was disobedient in that moment. Like I truly was like, this is not what the Lord said. Like the Lord did not tell me to go walk down my car and I did. And so it's like, what do we do in those moments when you know, again, like Nikki, you were saying it happened so quickly and like all of a sudden you're like, ah, ah, ah, ah. Like it's such a weird feeling when you know and then you just don't, you're like, why did I do that? Like I didn't even, like.
Hope Mangiafico (06:58)
Right. Yeah.
Britt Mognoni (07:24)
There's no explanation other than just like, just didn't happen. I just didn't. Like it's not that I'm not like, I think it's more of like, I can't believe I didn't slow down in that moment. Like it just, I wasn't even like, it's like I was rushing though. Like there's just, there's so many moments that we have where like, it's like the slightest inconvenience and I'm choosing not to. And I'm like, ⁓ gross. Like I don't want that. you know, I don't know.
Hope Mangiafico (07:29)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Here's
a question for you on that, because it's a great example of like, okay, that happened. How do you walk in grace without condemnation in those moments?
Britt Mognoni (08:06)
⁓ hope. Look at you. That's a question. I feel like Christians don't utilize the gift of repentance enough. And they think of it as like, I'm not gonna beg for forgiveness from the Lord. I, it was probably about 10 years, like something clicked in me where I'm like, we don't have to beg. Yes.
Hope Mangiafico (08:19)
We'll speak in that.
I remember when you had this revelation. I remember
the exact story for this revelation.
Britt Mognoni (08:37)
Dude,
it sets you free. As believers and followers of Jesus, you do not have to beg for forgiveness. He has forgiven you, has, as in past tense. And there's also something about the acknowledgement of mistakes, wrongdoing, sin, disobedience. To me, it's almost like two different things. I don't think it's wrong to say, Lord, forgive me, I'm sorry.
Hope Mangiafico (08:49)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Britt Mognoni (09:07)
there's, it's not wrong, but like, am I like, what is the posture of my heart? Is it like, I know that I'm under the blood and I know that I'm, I've been forgiven and I'm also like, I acknowledge like my own error, my laziness, like it's the acknowledgement of our need for him, truly it's our need for him. And so I think there is something to, to stepping into grace and letting it change. If it's not changing you and transforming you, like if I just go and went into that again, where I, you know,
or whatever, like if I'm not changed by it, was I truly repentant? Was
Hope Mangiafico (09:41)
That's it.
Britt Mognoni (09:41)
I willing to be changed by it and allowing the Lord into that space? And maybe not, like maybe that's an area where I'm like, ⁓ there's another, there could have been another instance, it could be the Lord highlighting, hey, I'm highlighting this, like his kindness leads us to repentance. So like, he's so gentle and kind with us that he's going to like bring me in closer to be like,
Hope Mangiafico (09:42)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Britt Mognoni (10:06)
I'm gonna put my finger on this. Like it doesn't feel good. Like it felt gross
to me that I was like willingly disobedient. And I think, but in the grossness, it was more of like, like I need the Lord. Like I want someone to be praying for me. If I'm in, you know, clearly unwell or in pain, like, gosh, like I don't wanna miss that. Like I wanna be someone's like bridge to the goodness of God.
Hope Mangiafico (10:18)
Mm-hmm. ⁓
Britt Mognoni (10:34)
So if anything, it it stirred me. Like it should stir us and stir
us and be grateful for his grace, be grateful for the gift of repentance. Like that to me is what it should do versus being like, you bad girl, you didn't. Like, I just, there's, there's such a difference in that.
it's part of that humility and vulnerability. ⁓ he's a father, like parents correct their children. Parents discipline their kids. And so if I'm not willing to be corrected by my father, if I don't feel a little bit of that like holy discomfort, like the eww that I said, like, ew, why did I do, like, I joke about it, but truly there is that, like, it's that holy stirring of like,
Hope Mangiafico (10:55)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Britt Mognoni (11:22)
I want to, I say wanna be better. I want to be more like my father. And I wanna be more like Jesus and Jesus stopped for the one. And so
Hope Mangiafico (11:25)
Yes.
Britt Mognoni (11:31)
it was just, it gives me an opportunity to reflect on that. Like, ⁓ dude, I need him, you know? And I think that if we're as Christians, like we so, I so get what you're saying about like the condemnation versus like the conviction. Like, are we willing to sit in it for a little
If we feel the, bad girl, what if the Lord is being silly with us? he knows our personalities and he's, he could just be being, are we willing to just ask, instead of just one, allowing the enemy and going to the pity party or self-loathing or I'm so horrible, I'm not even gonna go there.
Hope Mangiafico (11:57)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. ⁓
Britt Mognoni (12:15)
The enemy, that's where the enemy can take root and pull and like, towards the pervert, what the Lord actually meant to be like convict and like draw
you into humility, maturity. We can allow the enemy actually to twist and turn it into condemnation. But it's again, we have that split second choice where we're like, I'm gonna just listen and be like, what am I feeling right now? Like, what feelings am I feeling? Am I feeling like, I feel actually embarrassed that like I didn't do that. Like embarrassment is not evil.
Hope Mangiafico (12:25)
Right.
Britt Mognoni (12:43)
it's part of, to me, like a sister, it can be a sister of conviction of like, ooh, like I'm embarrassed that I didn't go, I wasn't obedient. And I feel like small and silly. But again,
Hope Mangiafico (12:48)
Mm-hmm.
Britt Mognoni (12:53)
it just shows the need that we have for like grace, his voice, like redemption, like all the things that he says, I don't know. He's so faithful. And I just, I feel like if someone's caught up in the whole like condemnation thing.
Hope Mangiafico (12:53)
Mm-hmm.
Britt Mognoni (13:11)
It's just that they haven't made enough space for the Lord, like to listen to the Lord in those moments of like, ⁓ and even asking, am I feeling conviction or am I feeling condemnation? And let him tell you. ⁓
Hope Mangiafico (13:12)
Yeah, we talk about
that all the time. Like you can ask simple questions or even instead of saying either or just like is this conviction? Yes or no, you know, like you can simplify it and you
Britt Mognoni (13:26)
Yeah!
Yeah. Great. Great.
Hope Mangiafico (13:33)
Press into that because it's like you said in the podcast we talk about all the time is heart posture. If you're trying to pursue your father and to look more like him and you hear yes run with that. Run with that. Gosh and that's probably as you're speaking to like condemnation is that sitting in so taking that split second moment and I don't know. I'm even thinking like prophetic act of like, okay, let's say you're sitting and you're like overthinking stand up and move.
Britt Mognoni (13:44)
Right. Yep.
Hope Mangiafico (14:03)
get out of that posture of sitting in the condemnation and staying still in that like, bleh. And I'm just thinking about this woman and compared to the man at the mall, like, if her healing's coming, God's gonna put another person up in front of her. Like, so she didn't miss out on anything. if God has a-
Britt Mognoni (14:10)
Yeah.
Right.
Right, because then
it goes into pride. Then it would go into pride of like that it was on me.
Hope Mangiafico (14:30)
Yeah. Girl, you are hitting on so many points that Nikki and I have covered in our previous episodes. It's like this was like the most perfect podcast because you are literally hitting on probably the previous 20 some odd episodes. Like every nugget from every single one. It's been so cool.
Britt Mognoni (14:46)
Wow,
that's awesome. my God.
Hope Mangiafico (14:49)
Even the pride
part like oddly enough a couple episodes back that we recorded The Lord was really highlighting to me like how to align with him and he gave me like a list of Traits if you will like walking people through like repenting and coming out of agreement first one was pride and the title that he gave for that episode was how to love like God but it was such a weird thing, but then it all came to fruition of like
this makes sense. You can't love like the father if you've got the pride. If you talked about looking at yourself, we call it navel gazing a lot. If you're navel gazing, so self-centered, it's all these points in which you highlighted of how to be a good community member, how to take part, how to reflect his love. That's so cool.
Britt Mognoni (15:25)
Yeah.
Wow, that's
cool. That's so good. ⁓ It's not. It does like confirm. If anything, like it's confirmation for you guys, like, yep, yes, yes, yes. Like that the Lord has his finger on that. Like not just for the three of us, but for people listening, like it's just, I just trust that the Lord is like, this is what they need to hear. Like people need, they need that. And sometimes it takes repetition. Like there's things when you're like,
Hope Mangiafico (15:40)
It's no coincidences. ⁓
Yes, perhaps.
Britt Mognoni (16:04)
you
know, if someone heard it on an earlier episode and like, they're like, maybe didn't hear it, didn't catch like when someone says it the same, says the same thing, but a different way, like it could be like, oh yeah. And then you're like, yeah, we said that in another episode. They're like, they did say that in another episode. I don't, I just, I love that, what the Lord can do through that, so.
Hope Mangiafico (16:22)
Absolutely. So much repetition happens over time in the episodes. do too. And it goes back to like, we often say like it's simple, not easy necessarily. And so the repetition keeps it simple.
Britt Mognoni (16:27)
Yes.
Hope Mangiafico (16:36)
And just like having you on here, you said pretty much similar things that we've taught over time, but you said it differently. And I mean, it hit. It hit good.
Britt Mognoni (16:46)
Well, good.
Hope Mangiafico (16:49)
I'm so grateful. This has been so wonderful on so many
levels. ⁓ my gosh.
